Tips On Buying a Used Boat PDF Print E-mail
Tuesday, 11 November 2008 10:40
For those of you who have not read my short articles before, my name is Matthew Hodson. My wife Anita and I, own and manage Queensland’s largest dedicated second hand trailer boat yard in Queensland – John Crawford Marine (JCM). Our business was established in 1964 and is now one of the most respected second hand trailer boat dealerships in Australia. I have been collating some of my experience and writing so as to pass on some hints and tips when buying second hand boats.

I will also endeavour to try and keep my writing based on facts and pointers that will help you understand some of the pit falls that face the discerning used boat buyer.

With the massive surge of interest in recreational boating over the past 5 years, which I believe is mainly contributed to the boom in property values, families have been able to realise and take advantage of the equity that is now readily available in there family home. This has lead to most recreational/lifestyle product based industries enjoying an increase in sales eg the Caravan Industry, prestige car sales and of course our own, Boating Industry. Marine Queensland (our Boating Industry) has just released figures that registered recreational boat registrations in Queensland have now broken through the 200,000 barrier.

With this surge in Boating interest and boat ownership, also comes the down side – shonky new dealers, back yard boating bandits/repairers and second hand importers that I refer to as “Sharks” they smell something that may be able to be taken advantage of, come in quickly, bite, chew like mad and when the prey has gone, they swim on to find the next kill. Sharks in our Boating Industry, thankfully are few and far between and I am not advocating that all second hand importers, back yarders etc have a hidden agenda, however, buyers beware there are some hints and pointers that I can give you, to help avoid becoming one of there victims!

Although my business survives on customers trusting our judgement in being able to test, warrant, insure and finance a second hand trailer boat, there will always be part of the market for what ever there reasons or intentions will either buy or sell privately. For this reason it is very important to understand that although a private advertiser lists, describes and explains there product for sale, if you are mislead or buy a lemon – it is an incredibly difficult process to get a fair result, either a refund or repair. 

logo_mqld_memberCredible boat dealers or boat brokers will be a member of Marine Queensland or a Boating Industry body.  JCM was a founding member of our state organisation established over 25 years ago. This impartial, non profit organisation is there to help you, the purchaser, know that you are dealing with a business that works within the organisations code of conduct and operates in a fair manner. You will know if the business is accredited as they will have on display the Marine Queensland logo.

Buying privately or through a dealer (that is not a member) means you have no protection in the event you have problems or difficulty with your purchase. If you are convinced that buying privately is the way for you, then I urge you to ensure you purchase the rig subject to a satisfactory survey alternatively if it’s a trailer boat, organise a qualified marine mechanic from a Marine Queensland member to inspect the motor, hull and trailer for you.

Marine Queensland warns buyers of privately listed trailer boats to use caution when considering using a non accredited marine mechanic. You often find these guys advertising in the likes of the local Trading Post, local papers, etc. Again, most of these back yarders are not members and they are generally not qualified. The outcome for you again is that you will have no real recourse in the event of a problem. It may cost up to a few hundred dollars to have an accredited Marine Queensland dealer inspect the vessel in their workshop, but I guarantee you it will be money well spent!

I know it must sound like I am harping on about the benefits of buying or dealing with a Marine Queensland dealer but looking at the big picture, if you do buy a lemon privately, and due to the cost of repairs, lack of confidence etc, then decide to get out of boating altogether, our industry misses out the total amount of money that you would have spent owning, insuring, servicing, maintaining, fuelling, permits, registration dollars etc that you would have pumped into the industry and other associated businesses for as long as you own a boat. So on this basis, it is beneficial for the boating industry members to ensure you, the boat owner has an enjoyable, hopefully hassle free foray into the Boating way of life!

I will endeavour to give you tips on where and how to look for back yard cover-ups or trying to mask problems that you may be unaware of. Only to find the hidden problems at a later stage, but once 9 times out of 10, once you have handed over your hard earned spon dooly (cash – no one said I had to be grammatically correct here did they Ed!)

“Sharks” and “backyarders” generally don’t have access to the wide variety of quality resources that a dealership has in its work shop therefore they may skip some important points and make do with inferior parts, nuts and bolts, detailing chemicals etc.

Another common mistake made on boats is using inferior steel metal screws, nuts and bolts to fix a gadget or accessory to the hull. When inspecting a used boat look at how the accessories are fitted. If you are going to fit accessories to your boat and the hull is made of Aluminium, ensure to seek some advice before you fit your accessory/toy etc. I say this because when two dissimilar metals touch one another a reaction called Electrolysis occurs. I’m not an electrician or a Physics expert, but in layman’s terms, when two dissimilar metals touch, it excites the electrons within the metals and they start to move from one metal to the other. The end result is the weaker metal starts to oxidise, basically it looks like rust without the characteristic red/brown stain that is found on iron metals. On aluminium it generally bubbles and blisters the painted surface surrounding the rivet/screw etc. If the hull is unpainted generally a white powder like substance will appear.

This photo shows the result of electrolysis between a rod holder that has been riveted into the deck of the boat. The electrolysis is very easy to see as it has resulted in blistering the paint and if a barrier in the way of a rubber gasket or barrier glue is not fitted soon, the electrolysis will “eat” deeply into the aluminium hull.

Electrolysis



This photo was taken when our workshop removed the floor, which was poorly fitted to a small 3.5m dinghy. The Electrolysis in this case is severe. It has literally eaten through the hull. In this case there were several causes that resulted in basically destroying the integrity of this boat. We found numerous lead sinkers under the floor sitting in the ribs of the hull. Lead and aluminium do not mix. The lead has reacted so badly with the alloy it has eaten through the hull and left pinholes all the way through the hull. If left there any longer the sinkers would have eventually eaten through the hull until literally falling out! If you drop a sinker in your or your mates aluminium tinny, make sure to pick it up, as this will eventually happen to the aluminium hull if you don’t remove it from the hull.

Sinker Corrosion


Sinker Corrosion


This hull was also used as a tender and basically remained in a salt environment 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The boat was also covered with a tarp, however the owner didn’t keep the salt water out of the rig nor did he wash it down with fresh water. The end result between the sinkers and the salt is severe electrolysis. This boat is unsound and really is only suitable as a dam boat for a farmer or to be sold as scrap metal!

Our workshop was recently asked to repair a back yard electrical installation that had gone horribly wrong! The back yarder had installed a battery isolation switch, a fairly straight forward job he thought – wrong, the end result was that he had placed the earth wire in the wrong place and quite literally when the switch was on, he was putting 12v directly through the hull. The boat was quite literally “alive”, the current started to cause electrolysis throughout the rig. The seller ended up devaluing the rig as the paint all over the hull started to lift as a result of Electrolysis and his poor installation. When buying through an accredited dealer this something that the mechanic will check for.

If you are considering purchasing a boat that has recently undergone some major alterations and been reconditioned, always be very cautious. As you do not know what may lie under the fresh coat of anti foul or the new decals, or the new paint job. Insist on having something in writing that states who completed or carried out the work and is any warranty given on the workmanship. I have attached a photo here of a Yalta 2000 Odessa that has under gone a major refit. The hull was completely stripped back and rebuilt from the underfloor up. The transom was replaced, the hull stringers were inspected, the hull professionally repainted, new windscreen, canopies, clears fitted. This rig, although being sold on a consignment basis at our boatyard still carries structural warranty from the company who rebuilt it. If the company would not back up there work, then JCM would not want any thing to do with the rig, because how could we guarantee the workmanship if we haven’t seen the “before and during” process! Remember, you wouldn’t buy a car that has been restored by a back yarder, why you buy a boat that has also been rebuilt by a backyarder?

Yalta 2000 professionally restored and rebuilt by Valet Boat Services
Yalta 2000 professionally restored and rebuilt by Valet Boat Services


Remember at the end of the day, pay attention to details, go with your gut instinct, if you do not feel comfortable with either the seller, question the product or have any doubts you are always better to leave it alone and move on. I believe that there is a boat for everyone! Next month I will highlight some another batch of issues concerning trailer integrity, the flood of second hand trailer boats from the US and ways to help prevent buying someone else’s problem!

Safe and enjoyable boating!
Matthew Hodson
Last Updated on Saturday, 27 June 2009 13:39
 

Customer Testimonials

Matthew H
Date: Feb 09, 2012


Good Morning Stephen, Just a quick note to let you know the boat arrived yesterday safe and sound. We are all very excited to take it out on the water, hopefully this weekend brings some good weather. Thank you very much for your assistance with this purchase, you have been wonderful. We will be recommending your company for anyone we know that is interested in purchasing a boat. Have a great weekend. Many thanks, Jodalee & Greg

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